Kai Murros and National Revolution

Kai Murros is probably for most people a curiosity, known best by this image and quote that you see on Twitter occasionally-


So I decided to read a little more about him, and I was astonished. He has the most profound insights of any nationalist thinker I have read, has expressed clearly ideas only dimly seen by me, and proposed solutions to several problems plaguing nationalists.

For a nationalist, he’s pretty off the wall. He comes from a communist or Marxist philosophical background, while rejecting communism and Marxism. In particular he uses the revolutionary ideas of Mao and applies them to nationalism.

He is definitely a socialist and definitely an advocate of the white working class. Laying aside what “socialism” actually means- I don’t want to upset Vox Day!- and considering that all modern political systems have a social aspect, I think this is entirely appropriate.

From cursory study, Mao’s big idea was the concept of the “base area”- an area controlled by revolutionaries where they establish control and gain strength. Everyone else- left and right- seems to have always regarded politics as an urban thing, because that’s where formal politics happen, and that’s where the money and power are. Political events happen in the city, and the result is imposed on the country.

As we saw in Charlottesville, however, leftists control the city. They control the police and the courts. Nationalist activity is aggressively suppressed in the city.

One question for nationalists is, do we have a service organization or a military organization? Golden Dawn is both. Some nationalists- Mindweapon for a long time, Ryan Landry recently- propose a service organization. Ryu advocates direct action.

Murros says it must be both, and this organization must start in the base area or areas. Another problem is, are the police our enemies or our friends? To Ryu, they are the enemy. To VXXC, they can’t be our friends, but they can be neutral.

City police are firmly in the control of leftists and have been for decades. Rural police- particularly in the South- are more likely to turn a blind eye to armed political action, partly because of sympathy and partly because they are few in number.

Rural areas are the best places to start nationalist action. The people are more likely to be traditionalist, feel hostile toward the city power structure, and feel abandoned by it.

The best example is drugs. Legal opioid addiction and associated heroin use are the worst in rural areas. Everybody knows who the pill mill doctors are, and who the drug dealers are, but nobody does anything. White people look to the police, but the police don’t really care. Narcotics enforcement is a tedious business and harder to do where anonymity is difficult. However, if these people get notice they need to leave town, and when they don’t they wind up dead- well homicide investigation is tedious also, and maybe the sheriff is likely to shrug and say “We need the public to come forward.”

In rural areas nationalists can provide social services and also take military action. Nationalists then become the de facto government. Americans are allergic to political violence, but they are fairly comfortable with vigilantism.

Murros puts violence in three categories- state violence, revolutionary violence, and direct action. Revolutionary violence protects the people- to start with, vigilante action against drug dealers, gangs and other criminals. Direct action is what is commonly called terrorism. Murros despises direct action as the lashing out of bourgeois revolutionaries with no connection to the working class- the leftist terrorists of the late 60’s and early 70’s fit well this definition.

I have difficulty condemning any person taking direct action they believe is necessary. I don’t condemn Dylann Roof. Better he stalked and killed black pimps and drug dealers, but the nice church ladies at FAME hate white people just as much. I don’t condemn Anders Breivik. How effective his attack was is up for debate, but the people he killed hated Norwegians and wanted them crushed by African and Moslem invaders.

Violence however is a rough tool, and must be used carefully. Terrorism doesn’t really work because it just frightens and upsets people, and makes them support the system more.

There have been urban revolutions and rural revolutions. The French and Russian urban revolutions succeeded; the Spanish urban revolution failed, because it did not control enough territory. The Chinese and Cuban rural revolutions succeeded, the Vietnamese partially, until massive military power could be applied, and most other rural revolutions have not been successful. Colombia is wrapping up a stalemate on a rural revolution.

In Colombia, the communists had support of landless farm laborers but to the city people they were just kidnappers and extortionists. City people have different interests and perspectives than country people and will not see violence the same way.

This is a very shallow introduction to the topic and I will write more about these ideas in the future.


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I like fast cars, fast women and southern-fried rock. I have an ongoing beef with George Orwell. I take my name from a character in Plato's "Republic" who was exasperated with the kind of turgid BS that passed for deep thought and political discourse in that time and place, just as I am today. The character, whose name means "fierce fighter" was based on a real person but nobody knows for sure what his actual political beliefs were. I take my pseudonym from a character in an Adam Sandler song who was a obnoxious jerk who pissed off everybody.
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8 Responses to Kai Murros and National Revolution

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  3. J. Junger says:

    The principle of where, how, and when to use violence is always the same, whether you are talking about on a tier in a state prison or in a war for territory in a colonial holding. You have to let the other party know that the cost of messing with you exceeds whatever utility they might extract even if they win. Look at the misery Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck caused his opponents in Africa. And terrorism works, but again, you have to be willing to fight for forty years, not a few months. Irgun and the IRA got what they wanted through not just terror, but attrition. Communists tried in Germany but the Nazis fought back (the KPD was dumping bodies in the Spree, until the Freikorps shot Rosa Luxembourg and dumped that Yenta in the river).

    Also, rather than sweating the political orientation of the police or the Army, look again to the most important element of combat logistics: supply lines. If over-the-road truckers were all alt-right or alt-light or just civic nationalists, they could make that known and make it known that they held the power of life and death over anyone who didn’t know how to grow their own food (which is most Americans).

  4. Ryu says:

    I wouldn’t be against the cops if they worked for us and enforced our laws, Thrashy.

    We don’t seem to get any protection from them. It’d be easier if they just got out of our way, or didn’t exist at all.

  5. Ryu says:

    I do not think a movement based on action can work. It’s too hard now. Murka is a full police state. You can’t move or buy anything without being tracked.

    Some WNs have cop or soldier training, which does not help. It isn’t the same working on your own, on your budge, no support, no communication, nothing.

    And it is only getting worse. More surveillence, the War on Cash coming, more CCTV on the traffic lights, more credit cards and computers. Freedom and liberty are gone and no one is left to fight for them.

    To operate a group of any size inside a police state is terrifically hard. The USA is worse than the USSR or Nazi Germany. Most nationalists aren’t ready to admit this, and aren’t willing to be as disciplined as the Russian mafia, who grew up in the gulags.

  6. Proud former USSR citizen. says:

    Violence will come very easyly. Just like in the end of the USSR left can,t take anymore heat and launch open war .

    C`ville mess demonstrated that left reaching it`s boiling point. They could just ignore this couple hundred member event but left freaked out and overreacted. Soon they will do it again and much more larger scale.

  7. jimmy says:

    the ideals of Kai Murros, and his book Revolution and how to do it in modern society, are best when married to, For a positive Critique, by Dominique Venner, follwed with, Generation identity and a europe of nations both by Markus Wittinger.

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