The White Undertow- The Limits of Whitopia II

Harold Covington has coined a phrase which is supposed to be a new meme for pro-whites, “If whites had their own country, this wouldn’t be a problem.”

Whites did have their own countries. They had Europe and the US. This did not stop leftist rule or the invasion of hostile non-whites. This happened not in spite of the fact that they were white, but because certain white people wanted it to happen.

I talked about this before in “The Limits of Whitopia“. Paul Kersey coined the term “black undertow” to describe the phenomenon of blacks moving to white communities, because they were nice, and then ruining them. The “white undertow” is a less visible and grotesque phenomenon, but still a big problem. Colorado is a case of this. Many whites from California moved there, for some combination of the problem of housing costs, increased numbers of Mexicans, and the death of the aerospace/defense industry. (Mexicans were making school hell for white kids in supposedly white and conservative Orange County as early as the 90’s, from people I have talked to.)

These whites would probably be considered fairly conservative, but they were conservatives of the libertarian, alt-left variety who had liked a lot of liberal policies in California- environmentalism and diversity, among others. And so Colorado has become pretty liberal. The more egregious liberals are from the northeast, but the Californians certainly make their contribution.

Any nice community constructed by whites anywhere will attract white liberals who want to live around productive, peaceful, responsible whites. If those whites have political and cultural views they don’t like, no problem, they can quickly be whipped into shape.

All conflicts are between white factions. Saying “white” is never enough, you have to say what kind of whites.

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I like fast cars, fast women and southern-fried rock. I have an ongoing beef with George Orwell. I take my name from a character in Plato's "Republic" who was exasperated with the kind of turgid BS that passed for deep thought and political discourse in that time and place, just as I am today. The character, whose name means "fierce fighter" was based on a real person but nobody knows for sure what his actual political beliefs were. I take my pseudonym from a character in an Adam Sandler song who was a obnoxious jerk who pissed off everybody.
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20 Responses to The White Undertow- The Limits of Whitopia II

  1. Jehu says:

    If you want to rule an area, you have to control not just the physical geography but also the social status system that persists within it. This is to say you HAVE to make the social status system such that it makes niggers of your ideological opponents. Sure you can be a white liberal in whitopia, but if you are you MUST also be a nigger. That means you must face large systemic disadvantages on everything at least to the extent that modern liberals believe the original niggers faced. In practice this means you can’t permit freedom of speech as liberals understand it. You could have ‘freedom of dialectic’, but absolutely not the artistic freedom to apply ‘authorial affirmative action’ or freedom to distort the histograms of reality (extreme example, making the population believe that 25% of the population is gay). The amusing thing though is that authorial AA and histogram distortion is usually so damned transparent that it could be corrected by a board of censors with VERY VERY little artistic rewrite required.

    • Anonymous says:

      My meme to white parents is “your kids are the new niggers”

    • fnn says:

      Not endorsing libertarianism, but libertarian philosopher Hoppe understands how communities MUST work:

      http://www.samizdata.net/2003/10/hanshermann-hoppe-walking-on-t/

      There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and expelled from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They – the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centred lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism – will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order.

  2. Ian says:

    I think that “If whites had their own country, this wouldn’t be a problem” implies “If whites had their own country [and a generally self-consciously pro-white attitude], this wouldn’t be a problem.”

    Also – “blacks moving to white communities, because they were nice, and then ruining them” – I am not sure who the “they” refers to, but, either way, I don’t think that’s why NAMs live among whites. The reason why NAMs come to live among whites is almost always the same – rich whites want cheap labor for menial jobs (“cheap” in terms of wages and in the short term, that is). That is the reason why there were any blacks in South Africa, the reason why Israelis didn’t just kick out all Palestinians/Muslims any time they could have between 1947 and 1965, the reason why blacks are in the Western Hemisphere at all, the reason why blacks were not sent back from the USA to Africa in 1865, the reason why blacks moved from the South to Northern Cities and then in California in WW2, the reason why there are 50 million Mexicans and Central Americans in the USA, the reason why there are so many Arabs and black Africans in Europe today.

    In the short term, NAMs are cheaper and more pliant workers than fellow whites. The eventual costs in terms of crime, riots, welfare, affirmative action, loss of traditional identity and cohesion, etc don’t show up until later.

    Environmentalists like to say that governments should find a way to work the otherwise hidden costs of an action in terms of impact on the natural world into the cost that companies pay for doing that action. Similarly, I think if those rich and powerful whites throughout history who brought in NAMs to pick their cotton, mow their lawns, nanny their kids, work for lower wages in their restaurant or construction company, etc actually had to personally pay the full social and financial costs of bringing the NAM into white territory, the rich whites would probably decide that the much higher cost would make it not worth it.

    • Candide III says:

      Possibly, but who would make them pay up? Peasants with pitchforks?

      • Ian says:

        I am hoping that if I (and enough likeminded compatriots) leave enough angry and incisive comments on blog posts, that will due the trick. (Sigh … )

    • The immigrant cheap labor problem is separate from the community destruction problem, because originally cheap labor immigrants of whatever race had their own communities. The end of housing segregation led to blacks leaving their own terrible communities to live in nice white communities.

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  4. Heil Hizzle Mein Nizzle says:

    I remember something the very liberal John Cleese said on a recent trip through the streets of London, something to the effect that he liked diversity, and wasn’t a racist (etc.) but that when the parent culture was destroyed (re: white English in this case), the multicultural experiment has gone too far. He lamented the lost London of his youth, but lacks the balls to address it, and rather than be called a jackboot with the BNP and EDL, I believe he has fled to some Scandinavian country to escape the nightmare his political cohorts have created.

    I am less than 30 years old, so don’t know what America was like in its Golden Days, and I don’t know if an all-white country would be a Utopia (or “Whitopia”) but I’d be willing to bet America was a better place when it was at least 80% white.

    • Places like Vermont are almost all white but have progressive governments. You are probably OK as long as you don’t get involved with the legal system as a business owner or a father.

      • Heil Hizzle Mein Nizzle says:

        I just visited PIttsburgh, and after living in the multicult, riot prone hellhole that is my city, it was like walking into the sort of America E. Michael Jones described as having been deliberately obliterated. There were little butcher shops, neighborhood churches, and city streets thronged by working class white people!

        I had never seen such a thing. Where I come from, the livable space inside the city is for the very rich and the very poor. Pittsburgh has (or had) a reputation as a shit-hole, but a white shit-hole like Pittsburgh is far preferable (at least for me) to a thriving black Mecca like Atlanta.

  5. Peak Finance says:

    Not sure that I agree with your premise.

    It takes a huge, co-ordinated, daily propaganda effort by ZOG to maintain the multi-cult illusion and impose the social controls that are in place now. Every TV show, most movies, every newspaper, all schools, all colleges, almost all magazines, continuously hitting the same notes!

    The machine will break-down, the money to sustain it can’t last much longer, and without this daily sustained attack on white common sense, it will crumble, and people will wake from their daze. Of course there are some “true-belivers” but they are few.

    Also, people are no longer willing to pay for propaganda to be streamed into their houses. 5 million people a year now cancel cable / satellite tv. This will change attitudes.

    • 5 million a year? That’s good news! I’ve entertained the idea of giving people various toys (ipads, kindles, etc.) in exchange for their old tv sets and for canceling their cable, but I don’t know where you’d start with that.

  6. I still meet plenty of conservative Whites–rich, middle-class, and poor–here in Orange County. Not all of them have fled the state. Make them trust you and get them behind closed doors, and they open up. The rage is becoming more palpable.

    I have been wondering a lot of late: when will the powder keg blow? Where is it going to go off first? And who will be responsible?

    Our most difficult opponents to deal with are liberal Whites. Certainly that is the only group for whom I harbour genuine hatred. But in the more uncertain times coming up I imagine some kind of organised ‘pressure’ can be brought to bear on these traitors and their families, Russian mafia-style, to make them submit.

    One can dream… 😉

  7. RS says:

    > I had never seen such a thing. Where I come from, the livable space inside the city is for the very rich and the very poor.

    The very poor? How’s that?

    Your sentiments remind me of my first travels to places like Missoula and the small-town Upper Midwest.

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  9. oogenhand says:

    Reblogged this on oogenhand and commented:
    Infinite regression. If there exists a WHITE Undertow, why consider Jews automatically non-“White” for their (supposed?) Anti-“White” behavior? Or Chechens for that matter?

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