Nobody Really Wants Freedom

Jim has a post bagging on men’s rights advocates, commonly refered to as “MRAs” but there is a larger point here as well.

The 60’s were supposed to be about freedom. Freedom for blacks, then freedom for women. But what about everybody else? Sexual freedom! Freedom for homosexuals, then freedom for everybody else.

The idea of transitioning from a society based on tradition to one based on freedom was popular not only with leftists but with libertarians. Rather than living by paternalistic rules, that restricted us with the idea of protecting us, we would now do as pleased and deal with the consequences. For intelligent, capable people that seems like a reasonable way to go.

But the part about “dealing with the consequences” was not part of the deal. There would be freedom for blacks, women and homosexuals. They would not deal with the consequences. AIDS should have been a wake up call on anal intercourse, but became in a year or two a civil rights issue, with little opposition.

But the point is most clearly made with women. Nobody is really willing to let women face the consequences of their actions, because deep down everyone regards them as children, do not want to see them suffer even if they deserve it, and do not want to see their children suffer.

But a “free” society can’t work like that. As it stands now groups deemed to have the right to freedom- blacks, women, and gays- do as they please and others pay for it. We are dealing with the consequences. The mostly libertarian society imagined by conservatives is not going to come to pass, so the only alternative is traditionalism, in which all members are restricted and the more childlike and incompetent- blacks, women, gays- are even more restricted.


About thrasymachus33308

I like fast cars, fast women and southern-fried rock. I have an ongoing beef with George Orwell. I take my name from a character in Plato's "Republic" who was exasperated with the kind of turgid BS that passed for deep thought and political discourse in that time and place, just as I am today. The character, whose name means "fierce fighter" was based on a real person but nobody knows for sure what his actual political beliefs were. I take my pseudonym from a character in an Adam Sandler song who was a obnoxious jerk who pissed off everybody.
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4 Responses to Nobody Really Wants Freedom

  1. Ryu says:

    There’s not stopping this thing now. Don’t apply the brakes, put down the accelerator! Like a fire, flood it with oxygen. Don’t try to smother it.

    More freedom! Anything is possible, everything is allowed. No morals, no ethics, no taboos. White men are rather chained today. I want to take those chains off. You are allowed to fight back. You’re allowed to hate. You are allowed to kill, in the same way the USG kills.

    I know you’re somewhat into South Africa. Did you see this story from CBB yesterday?

  2. PA says:

    American white men have lots of freedom. As individuals we can do whatever the hell we want.

    What was taken from us is liberty.

    Freedom is individual and immediate, liberty is communal and future-oriented. Freedom reduces you to a particle on rented public space. Liberty means you own the public space. And we lost ownership of our communities and the public space beginning with Brown vs Board in 1954.

    You can blast loud music from your car at a gas station if you want; no one will stop you. Yay freedom. But you may not tell a nigger to stop blasting his music at the gas station, because you do not own the public space. Even closer to home than gas stations, you can’t even challenge a suspicious punk in your own neighborhood, as George Zimmerman found out.

  3. spandrell says:

    That’s a great title.

  4. Dr. Faust says:

    Does a master not have a right to destroy his house? I want nothing more than to watch this whole thing burn to the ground. It is only fitting that white men built the the west and white men should destroy it.

    Everything sickens me. Everything is against me. Nothing is for me. Like Frankenstein’s monster the beast which man gave life to has taken a mind of its own and turned against its master.

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