We Need To Talk…….

John Derbyshire has had the ill manners to publish an article in Taki’s Magazine about how he would tell his children to behave around black people, in response to the idea that black parents need to tell their children how to behave around white people, so as not to get Trayvon’d. The best way not to get Trayvon’d is not to be a Trayvon, but telling a black person that is like telling them not to breathe. I thought Derbyshire’s piece was excessively generous to blacks but the Good People have been deeply offended, and he is probably getting defenestrated shortly from National Review. He is undergoing cancer treatment, so I hope his health insurance doesn’t come from NR.

Derbyshire’s schtick is pretty unique to himself, what I would call realist/fatalist conservatism. He is always saying a main tenet of traditional conservatism is to understand what can and can’t be changed, and most of what liberals do can’t be changed because of their entrenched power, so conservatives should just go along with it. He offends Lawrence Auster with his “liberal” stances, but only because Auster likes to define for himself who is a good conservative, which is someone who agrees with him. Derbyshire represents a viewpoint of cynical world-weariness that is these days expressed most distinctly by him but is shared by a lot of others, and is perfectly at home in the heterogenous world of modern conservatism. Auster nonetheless catalogs the outrage predictably enough triggered by Derbyshire’s rude presentation of facts and obvious truths.

Derbyshire actually goes out of his way to be nice to blacks. He way underestimates the proportion of actively hostile blacks (5%? more like a third) and exaggerates the variety and potential value among them. A large number of blacks are actively hostile; the rest are passively hostile and easily set off by the actively hostile.

Here’s the really stupid part-  “(4) The default principle in everyday personal encounters is, that as a fellow citizen, with the same rights and obligations as yourself, any individual black is entitled to the same courtesies you would extend to a nonblack citizen. That is basic good manners and good citizenship. In some unusual circumstances, however—e.g., paragraph (10h) below—this default principle should be overridden by considerations of personal safety.” A black person in America is not a fellow citizen. He has more rights and fewer responsibilities. He is in fact a sort of supercitizen.

He coins a phrase, “Intelligent Well-Socialized Black” or IWSB and suggests you ingratiate yourself. The trouble with this is that all blacks, but especially IWSBs, expect and are accustomed to a sort of warm and effusive deference from higher-level whites. From lower-ranking whites they only expect deference and submission. They love the warm, effusive deference but they also despise it. If you can’t avoid blacks, you have to be polite without being deferential or submissive. It’s a thin line- submission and deference bring contempt and abuse, and the lack might trigger a desire for punishment and revenge. The IWSB in his environment exudes a sort of regal generosity, and just witnessing it is galling; feeding into it is total humiliation.

Also at the Atlantic is a nice black lady talking about the talk. This illustrates the primary danger of blacks, that they just cannot deal with reality. She complains about the treatment of her son in a mostly white private school. It would seem to be a liberal SWPL place and probably not cheap. From the few facts presented, it seems obvious to me that her son is an aggressive, impulsive and loud child who just does not fit in among the quiet, studious SWPL children. Black people don’t mix well with whites, but especially not SWPL whites. The teachers were not racist, they were just trying to hold him to a SWPL standard of behavior. It’s impossible, of course, and in a public school he would just be allowed to run amok regardless of how much trouble and disruption he caused. The white working-class or middle-class children would just have to suffer, it’s their reparations for hundreds of years of slavery. SWPL parents paying good money for a private school won’t tolerate this, and of course upper-class whites don’t owe any reparations.

Derbyshire made it way too complicated. The only real strategy for dealing with blacks is avoid, avoid, avoid. SWPLs even mostly avoid IWSBs, who do make-work jobs away from the action to meet quotas. If you can’t avoid blacks, well, you’re in trouble.

A further note- I hate the mainstream conservative of National Review more than Al Sharpton. He is at least working for his people; they are betraying theirs, or if not actually theirs, since Ponnuru is not white and I don’t know Barro’s ethnicity, the people they are supposed to be advocating for. People, the “conservatives” are worse than useless to you. They support people who abuse and exploit you economically, and refuse to protect you from those who abuse and exploit you culturally and criminally. If you want to vote Republican because they are slightly less hostile to you than the Democrats, I suppose that’s ok, but don’t give any real support to a political party, church, business, or other institution that despises you.


About thrasymachus33308

I like fast cars, fast women and southern-fried rock. I have an ongoing beef with George Orwell. I take my name from a character in Plato's "Republic" who was exasperated with the kind of turgid BS that passed for deep thought and political discourse in that time and place, just as I am today. The character, whose name means "fierce fighter" was based on a real person but nobody knows for sure what his actual political beliefs were. I take my pseudonym from a character in an Adam Sandler song who was a obnoxious jerk who pissed off everybody.
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15 Responses to We Need To Talk…….

  1. Ryu says:

    I also read Derbie’s article. Wayyyy too long. I’ll stick with “around blacks, never relax” and keep the change.

    • He’s trying to maintain a veneer of respectability- or was- and so he needs to explain, qualify, hedge, and justify a great deal. I’m going to write my own “Talk” of what is actually useful to young people who would otherwise be brainwashed.

    • Matthew says:

      We need infectious memorable rhymes, like the ones about coral snakes versus king snakes:

      Red and black, venom lack,
      Red and yellow, kill a fellow.

      “Around blacks, never relax” doesn’t have quite the rhythm I’d like, but it’s a start.

      We also need a new Kipling, but that’s a long shot.

  2. Matthew says:

    Derb was writing harsher, funnier things about blacks for NRO ten years ago. I don’t recall Lowry or Goldberg saying boo about it then. Bitches.

  3. Jehu says:

    My version of the Talk with my boy when he’s of proper age will include lots of discussion of Taqiyya. People who are at war with you are not entitled to honesty, that’s like asking a soldier from another army where the left flank of your main body is located.

  4. Brandon says:

    Good post Mr. T.

  5. Blackie says:

    dear god this blog is deranged. seriously bunnycakes close the laptop go outdoors and just breathe. I’m guessing all this hate is from RayRay and his crew beating your lunch money out of you in the tenth grade but it’s time to move on. Aren’t you folks supposed to be against “collectivism” or whatever you accuse liberals of having constantly? Shit, this blog isn’t you deconstructing Leftism. It’s you deconstructing your own humanity, assuming you once had such a thing.

    • Actually I never had any trouble with blacks as a kid, I lived in environments that were virtually all white or multiethnic/multiracial but without blacks. I was pretty liberal on race until I grew up and kept seeing how things really were.

      The race stuff is actually a distraction to me, but with so much of it going on it’s hard to get away from. All political conflict in the US is between different groups of white people, minorities are just proxies.

      • Scott says:

        I think it’s funny black people actually think white people are taught to be racist. The anti-racist indoctrination camps growing up were huge and even the whitest neighborhoods typically had 1 well behaved black family white kids would extrapolate to the black community. Most people never have anything bad to say about blacks until they spend some time with them.

      • Red says:

        Same here. Couple of my closest friends I grew up with are black. I didn’t realize what was up until the LA roits and then dating a girl living in an almost all black apartment complex. You can only repeat the same anti-racist solgans for song before you really start examining the evidence and realizing the truth. Most blacks are good for nothing more than slaves and if you don’t opress the black under class you get horible levels of violence. I feel this way about it while still being friends with the blacks I grew up with. My black friends don’t want to spend time around black people any more than I do.

      • Reality has a way of getting your attention.

  6. reader says:

    #5 — How about making an actual argument instead of just spewing insults and vague assertions?

    Or is your argument merely in the characteristic vein of, “Lawdy Lawdy, I’s bin to de mountaintop and I’s seen de ribber Jordan and I habs me a dream” and the rest of that hooey?

    Come on, Mister Sanity, engage me. I’m listening. My ears are bent.

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  8. Unamused says:

    Very interesting posts lately.

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