The South Won’t Rise Again

As a child in school in southern California in the 70’s, I was quite puzzled to be classified as an “Anglo”. This strange racial classification was applied to white, European children with the idea that their native language and culture was supposedly English as opposed to the mestizo, Mexican children whose native language and culture was- I won’t say Spanish; the term prefered then was not Hispanic or Latino, but Chicano, a term from radical Mexican politics meaning “poor ones”.

I have in fact no English ancestry at all; inasmuch as I am half Irish I ought to have found it offensive, but it just struck me as stupid. Politics and culture in California were just starting to get stupid, though, and they have come a long way in the last three or four decades.

In the world of the Southern partisan I’m not an “Anglo”- they reserve the glories of English culture for themselves- but a “Yankee”. Again this term is quite puzzling. None of my ancestors came from New England or ever lived in New England. Again, I have no English ancestry. None of my ancestors were Protestants of any kind, especially not Puritans. The families of both my father and mother settled in Michigan and never went east or south. My mother’s liberalism was admittedly of a social-climbing kind, but my father’s was strictly class and ethnic loyalty.

History interests me quite a bit, but the past not very much. History studies the past, to find eternal truths that are still relevant today. History draws a straight line from Tiberius Gracchus to the Black Shirts to the white worker displaced by legal and illegal immigration today. The past is, well, just the past.

The future is the future of positive, productive people living in an orderly, just society under the rule of law- mostly white people, but not all white people, and including non-whites who want to live in such a society. I don’t see a future for blacks- they have pretty much all committed themselves to servitude of the system. Things will either remain the same for them or more likely, get steadily worse.

I have never really thought of myself as a white nationalist, but ultimately a good society is a white society, again with civilized participation from other races. We need strong, healthy white societies wherever white Europeans live in significant numbers- North America, Australia, Europe, even Latin America.

But it seems to me that white Southerners, Southern partisans in particular, don’t see themselves as part of this. In general they see themselves as a society separate from other Europeans. Their goal is to establish their own independence with no care for anyone else.

Southern partisans see all whites outside the South- all in the North and West- as “Yankees”, a strange and totalitarian people who hate them and their culture and are intent on dominating and destroying it. In my personal experience, if you get a large group of people together from all over the US, it will Southerners who stand out for their arrogance and chauvinism.

The South- by which we mean the states where chattel slavery of blacks was practiced on a large scale- is perceived by Southern partisans to be a culturally, socially, economically and politically homogenous and potentially autonomous area. But it’s not.

The South has always been tightly politically connected to the rest of the country. It degree of control of the federal government has always been an obsession in the South; and through most of US history the South has had a high and disproportionate degree of control over it. The South has always funneled as much federal money to itself as it could. It could export cotton and textiles from its own ports, but has wanted a captive domestic market, so their has been a lot of protectionism for textiles.

One area in which the South has been strong recently is manufacturing; foreign automakers in particular have chosen to build factories, usually with a lot of local subsidies, away from the influence of the UAW. The South certainly can’t afford to alienate foreign investors.

What we think of as “Southern” culture is not at all unique to the South, but just the rural culture everywhere. Country is indeed countrywide.

The South is never going to secede from the US, seal its borders and resegregate itself. It is too tightly wrapped up with the rest of the country and the world. Alternative history and counterfactuals are moot at this point. The South will be of no help for a new political future. It produces machine politicians like George W. Bush, Rick Perry, and Mike Huckabee barely distinguishable from their northern counterparts.

For the forseeable future whites- or anyone else hoping for a future independent of a dying system- is going to have to concentrate on building alliances, communities, skills and assets independent of and beyond the reach of it. Will English whites- Northern or Southern, Puritan, Quaker, Yankee, Cavalier or Scots-Irish have any part in this? I don’t see it happening, but I may be wrong.

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About thrasymachus33308

I like fast cars, fast women and southern-fried rock. I have an ongoing beef with George Orwell. I take my name from a character in Plato's "Republic" who was exasperated with the kind of turgid BS that passed for deep thought and political discourse in that time and place, just as I am today. The character, whose name means "fierce fighter" was based on a real person but nobody knows for sure what his actual political beliefs were. I take my pseudonym from a character in an Adam Sandler song who was a obnoxious jerk who pissed off everybody.
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4 Responses to The South Won’t Rise Again

  1. red says:

    “Southern partisans see all whites outside the South- all in the North and West- as “Yankees”, a strange and totalitarian people who hate them and their culture and are intent on dominating and destroying it.”

    Oddly enough the Northern puritans have been working at this for almost 400 years. You need rural people. They always make up a disproportional percentage of your best troops and generals.

  2. destructure says:

    “[The South] could export cotton and textiles from its own ports, but has wanted a captive domestic market, so their has been a lot of protectionism for textiles.”

    You have that backwards. New England was the one that wanted protectionism. New England wanted a captive market for its manufacturing. It was called the Tariff of 1842 and placed a 40% tariff on all good imported from Europe. That was one of the main causes of the war. That’s pretty basic stuff. http://goo.gl/SejD9

    Also, you’re trying to portray yourself as an authority on Southern attitudes but it’s obvious you have no idea what or how Southerners think. You’ve simply absorbed your parents’ prejudices. And then you couldn’t understand why you got a negative response from Southerners. Well, it’s not that complicated. Southerners like people who like them. Change your attitude and you’ll find them a whole lot friendlier.

    • You’re talking about the 19th century; I’m talking about the 20th. Tariffs alone could not possibly have caused the conflict. The cause of the Civil War was the Southern plantation aristocracy wanted slavery in the South, slavery in the West, and maybe slavery in the North too.

      I didn’t absorb anything from my parents on Southerners; like many Northerners they had little contact with them and little reason to think anything about them, good or bad. My father knew a few in the Army. I knew many in the military, and had no problem with them. I found their mild, romantic regional chauvinism tiring at times.

      I don’t know a lot about the South because I haven’t studied it. I think the real story of the South is the conflict between different classes of whites. Southern partisans like to portray Southern whites as always united, but that has obviously never been the case.

      I like some Southerners but I wouldn’t say I like them as a whole, or Southern culture as a whole. Why would I like a culture that fouled up the nation by bringing in a large population of violent and non-assimilable people?

  3. destructure says:

    Tariffs alone could not possibly have caused the conflict. The cause of the Civil War was the Southern plantation aristocracy wanted slavery in the South, slavery in the West, and maybe slavery in the North too.

    Tariffs alone probably didn’t cause the conflict. But neither did slavery. There were a number of factors. That’s where people go wrong. They assume that everyone supports something for the same reason. Consider politics today. Lots of people support the Democrats and Republicans. Some support one or the other because of their opinions on abortion, unions, 2nd amendment, gay marriage, environmentalism, taxes, etc. Everyone has their own reasons but they get together and form a coalition.

    I didn’t absorb anything from my parents on Southerners; like many Northerners they had little contact with them and little reason to think anything about them, good or bad.

    I’ve spent enough time around both Northerners and Southerners to know better. Northerners are very prejudiced against Southerners. And I’ve never really seen the equivalent out of Southerners.

    Why would I like a culture that fouled up the nation by bringing in a large population of violent and non-assimilable people?

    Because they didn’t. Several colonies tried to pass laws against the international slave trade but the British vetoed them. It wasn’t until after the Revolutionary War that they were able to do anything about it. And by 1786 every colony except Georgia had banned the African slave trade. Georgia finally banned it in 1798. At this point, there were still significant numbers of slaves in New England as well. It was about this time that Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin and cotton took off. As you can see, the South didn’t import slaves any more than the North did. They just worked with the slaves that were already in the country.

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