OneSTDV talks about wimpy vegetarian dudes-
I frequently point out various places that this isn’t really Marxist, or liberal, in the way we usually think of those things, but comes from the kind of socially active Victorian Christianity that fell under the umbrella of Nonconformism-
John Harvey Kellogg invented breakfast cereal, loved fiber, hated meat and sex, and was a Seventh Day Adventist-
A comedy was made about this fellow, with Anthony Hopkins as a manic Dr. Kellogg and Matthew Broderick and Bridget Fonda as hapless visitors to his sanitarium-
Being against sex and for eating cornflakes are of course hilarious to the modern liberal, but the intense belief that eating “whole grains” and eating little meat are important to good health are straight from Kellogg’s pseudoscience. Mormonism is another 19th century social religion that discourages eating meat.
Conservatives like to think of leftism as a strange foreign imposition on red-blooded, macho Americans, from suspicious New Yorkers and pointy-headed foreigners, but to a great extent it’s culturally and socially deeply embedded in American culture. Catholics are usually liberals, but the idea of perfecting human existence- or nearly perfecting it- is foreign to them.
The culture is a difficult thing to fight.