I came across this Moldbug classic in Mangan’s current post, and read it again-
Usually Moldbug steps back too far and loses a certain amount of perspective from this. Here he misses something, simply out of lack of familiarity, although I’m the only person who really recognizes this.
His taxonomy of white people recognizes three groups- Brahmins (the master culture, as I call it, that runs the system), Optimates (the old elite) and Vaisyas, or what is usually thought of as traditionalist whites of the middle and working classes.
What he doesn’t see is that Vaisyas are further divided, into at least two groups, possibly three or more.
More than one VDare contributor would say, that because my ancestors come from Scandanavia and western Ireland, rather than Great Britain, including the English-occupied northern part of Ireland, I am not a real American. The Old Americans can be thought of as being English, Scottish, Dutch, and some Germans. Of all these groups only the Scots, or the abominably termed “Scotch-Irish” of the highland South are not close to the establishment- and not even all of them as I’ll point out.
So the primary group of American nationalists- the term “white nationalist” is too perjorative, and really applies to different groups- are what I’ll call the Highlanders. I knew a lot of these people in the military. I’ll be honest that from a social standpoint I didn’t much care for them, and truthfully they didn’t much care for me either. If I was going to engage in a healthy, manly, improving activity such as slicing up Communists, I would likely enjoy myself more in the company of a Spaniard or a German, cultures with real records of slicing and dicing. The Scots haven’t done anything in the world other than as stooges of the English.
An important element of American nationalism is overseas intervention. As Patton said, all real Americans love to fight. And a real American doesn’t need too much justification for kicking somebody’s ass, any more than he needs an excuse to ride a motorcycle on a sunny day. Some things are their own rewards. The Highlanders however reject this. They think we are no better than what ever brown people we are currently roughing up and have no right to tell them what to do. That’s as weak as an alcohol-free fraternity.
The Highlanders are also rather attached to the system through white socialism. I read years ago about a black man killed in a white area in Vidor, Texas. The white area was a public housing complex inhabited only by white people; the area apparently had public housing for blacks but this man was desegregating the white housing. Now, isn’t public housing for white people just retarded? I mean, just by living in public housing you cease to be white. A poor white person might live in a trailer or a shack, he might sleep under a bridge or in a refrigerator box, but he would not live in public housing without losing his status as a white person. But the New Deal is full of stuff for people like this. Highlanders would like socialism for whites only but the only way to get it is to make a deal including minorities so they do it.
We see an unbridgeable gap between these people and the dreaded “neoconservatives”, which has somehow come to be applied to mainstream conservatives of the Reagan-Goldwater variety.
So looking at Moldbug’s Vaisyas, we see further rifts, maybe deeper than even the others. But when has it not been so? Why didn’t the Gauls or Germans unite against the Romans? Because then there were no Gauls or Germans. They thought of themselves by their own tribes, not by generalized terms applied later by historians.