In his comment here Jehu says we need to “desacralize” the justice system for white people.
This to me points out a basic problem with Americans. Mainstream “conservative” whites- the kind of people who watch Fox News- don’t like the people running the system now, or what they are doing, but they have raised the system itself to God-like status. The Constitution is a holy writ for these people, and they firmly believe if we only followed the Constitution, if only people who were loyal to the Constitution were in office, all would be well.
Just as belief in the Easter Bunny is a fairly new thing, this idea is a reaction to the liberal jurisprudence that came to the forefront in the 50′s. Since Marbury vs. Madison, the US has been run at the whim of federal judges. This has been fine with the people who controlled the federal judiciary. Those not in control of the federal judiciary have been reduced to spluttering that whatever going on was “unconstitutional”. But since the Constitution means whatever the people in power want it to mean, it’s pretty pointless.
This was always the case, but the vulgar display of power became a magnitude more vulgar after World War II. Leftists had imagined a popular revolution that would give them whatever they wanted, but once the Nazis were gone the alliance with communism became repulsive to the common people. Pro-communists like Henry Wallace were rejected at the polls and the numerous communists in the US government came under scrutiny, for a while at least. But by then progressives firmly controlled the federal judiciary, so they began declaring anything they didn’t like, any resistance from the common people “unconstitutional”.
This is also the time frame when the elite dismissed non-elite whites as clients, and took on blacks. But we are discussing legal politics now and not coalition politics, and that topic I have discussed and will discuss extensively elsewhere.
Southerners- having controlled the Supreme Court from John Marshall and Marbury vs. Madison through Roger Taney and Dred Scott- and being deeply nostalgic people with a love for things long past, 100 years past at this point- decided they would try the constitutionalism again and started calling leftist legal initiatives unconstitutional. They didn’t realize that this was a social, cultural and political game, not a legal one, and they had lost all forms of power long ago. Nonetheless libertarians picked up on this and have been trying to apply legal, economic and political logic to the system ever since.
These people aren’t conservatives in any meaningful sense. The term “alternative left” has been used. They aren’t even New Deal democratic socialists, because while the New Deal had some black civil rights elements, it was implicitly segregationist. The Tea Party people don’t put anti-racism front and center, but if questioned would respond as anti-racists and would say they support much civil rights law.
They would be happy to put most people opposing the system, however passively, in jail because they believe the law is an abstract thing that must be obeyed under all circumstances. They would be hostile jurors and informers. They passively accept the system, keep it going through their obedience, and will turn against whites who don’t.
These people believe. Belief is a hard thing to shake. That the system despises them and accounts their obedience for nothing does not register with them. They believe in democracy, the Constitution, but most of all they believe in America.
“That the system despises them and accounts their obedience for nothing does not register with them.”
I’m not sure that’s true, and even if it were, it is not likely to remain so. I have Tea-Partying cousins on my mother’s side of the family, who liked Herman Cain and blather about how Frederick Douglas was a Republican. I recently went to an exhibit on the Dead Sea Scrolls with them, and they cooed about God’s divine favor for the Jews, etcetera.
But there are some cracks in the facade showing. After Obama won reelection, they are becoming more receptive to an explicit white identity (along the lines of Jared Taylor, though they wouldn’t tread into Kevin Macdonald territory at gunpoint). They’ve started agreeing with me on issues they would have previously been afraid to mention in the comfort of their own home. It is starting to set in with even the Hannity/Limbaugh crowd (courtesy of Ann Coulter), that there won’t be any more Republican presidents because there are too many black and brown people, and not enough white people. I’m generally not a fan of “worse is better,” but it is starting to look like “worse” is the only way to wake them up.
If the Republicans run Rubio or Jeb Bush in 2016, I vote to make Obama President for Life. At least then we could do away with the charade.
“If the Republicans run Rubio or Jeb Bush in 2016, I vote to make Obama President for Life. At least then we could do away with the charade.”
Same here… at least you get mixed signals with Obama — the obvious internal struggle with The Lobby(tm) and all of the dual citizens on his staff. The people that refer to him as “Stalin” probably aren’t too far off. That’s what Stalin did. He became embroiled in the Zionist/Anti-Zionist conflict within his own party and started purging Zionists… after it was far too late, of course.
It also would give the clear signal to the hand-wringing Tea partiers that it’s clearly over; Finito. Haiti and Mexico are constitutional republics…. put two and two together. Then hand them “March of the Titans”, “Why Hitler Came into Power”, “The Death of Nazi Germany”, a few Ernst Zundel cds and a copy of “Spartacus (1960)”. I’d be surprised if even a few of them would be able to stop their right arm from snapping to forty five degrees once they find out our grandparents were sent unwittingly to foul their own womb in ’44, Oedipus-style. Don’t believe us? Ask your patron saint George S. Patton. — Whoops!
Or if that’s too much reading, they can just watch this:
Jehu expressed something of the same sort a year or two back:
http://chariotofreaction.blogspot.com/2011/09/is-constitution-white-mans-ghost-shirt.html
Very pithy and insightful, and when I think back, it was probably this post that got me reading him regulary in the first place.
Tea Party types are reachable, but you’ve got to keep hammering away on issues that matter to them. Abortion is a useful lever for many, other levers work for other folks. As soon as they care about something more than they do about the legitimacy of the system, they’re yours. For liberals, it’s a matter of getting them to take something….ANYTHING…as more precious than diversity. It might be environmentalism, it might be localism…it might even be walkable cities or reduction in inequality. It really doesn’t matter what. Diversity is a jealous ‘god’.
I think it’s also important to use humor, on both sides. I would have never gone into “Kevin MacDonald territory” (good phrase Heil Hizzle) if it weren’t for a few jokes made at that group’s expense.
Pat Buchanan is a gateway to MacDonald, but most MSM conservatives are too scared to touch him. Still, his books are always on the bestseller list, so maybe the Tea Party Types can give the “God’s Chosen People” crap a rest, if they can be weaned off evangelism, where this Israel-worshipping is rampant.
As recently as 1988 things were apparently different:
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=david_mcguire_1
You used to be able to watch the Amren conference on CSPAN, too.
“They would be happy to put most people opposing the system, however passively, in jail because they believe the law is an abstract thing that must be obeyed under all circumstances. They would be hostile jurors and informers. They passively accept the system, keep it going through their obedience, and will turn against whites who don’t.
These people believe. Belief is a hard thing to shake. That the system despises them and accounts their obedience for nothing does not register with them. They believe in democracy, the Constitution, but most of all they believe in America.”
This is just such a load of bullshit that I have to wonder whether you’re having me on. The Tea Party wants to maintain the status quo? The Tea Party that has been successfully maligned as racist by mainstream figures,who set the status quo, despite a lack of any evidence of racism whatsoever beyond the fact that not a lot of black guys like to show up somewhere in Revolutionary War costumes? Not like some other “Tea Party” made up of Chinese Communists that control the tea trade or something?
The reason they treat the Constitution like it is a holy writ is because it is the owner’s manual for the country. It tells you whose country it is and why, what everything in the country does and why,etc,etc, it is the motherfuckin life raft that will either save your ass or sink you,depending on how well you apply it.